“Sheep-proofing” dogs in Norway

There was an article in a Norwegian dog magazine (an English translation is in the comments’ section below) this week, essentially claiming that by delivering an electric shock to a dog a single time as it runs towards a flock of sheep, you can stop it from ever chasing sheep again. Indeed, it gets a diploma to show that it’s “sheep-proofed”. There are no other ways of teaching this behaviour, the article claims, and also, it suggests that it’s a way to increase the overall quality of life of the shocked dogs.

The article implies that a single shock in a single location is all it takes to make dogs sheep-proof forever.

Needless to say, this article has stirred a lot of feelings within the Norwegian R+ community.

And for good reason.

Now, I don’t train dogs myself, but reading through it I found I have four areas of concern:

“Only one shock is needed”

It is implied that 99% of dogs only need one shock, after which they become “sheep-proof”.

To me this number seems suspiciously low, and I’m concerned about potential whitewashing – I’d like to see the data supporting that statement.

To my knowledge, the only published comparison on the efficacy of shock collar training to stop hunting behaviour is from the recent “banana” shock collar paper (which suffered from major design faults as well as a blatant conflict of interest – however I see no reason to question their findings on the actual shock collar training), in which the average number of shocks on day 1 was 10, and even after 6 sessions on three consecutive days, some of the dogs were still getting shocked in the training arena to stop the chasing behaviour – even though the intensity of the shock was high enough to cause all dogs to yelp in pain at some point in their training. So even though that study was made on dogs chasing a moving plastic lure rather than live sheep, I would question that a single shock would immediately have such a laser-targeted, generalizable and long-lasting effect.

In other words, I suspect multiple shocks (over multiple sessions in multiple locations) would be needed to teach a solid avoidance behaviour in novel contexts. I’m not disputing that it can be done, but I’m hesitant to the suggestion that only a single shock in a single location would be needed.

The “Sheep proof” diploma

I would also question whether they actually become “sheep-proof”, implying that they will never again hunt sheep in any other context, after just one shock in one training session in one location.

Although there is often one-trial learning with aversive stimuli, generalization doesn’t always occur that quickly.

For instance, in the same “banana” study mentioned above, only 33% of the shocked dogs who had stopped chasing the lure in the first scenario refrained from chasing another lure in a novel location without first hearing the conditioned punisher (the word “banana”) – and 33% ignored the “banana” warning.

In other words, I would question that 99% of dogs would stop chasing sheep in novel scenarios after such limited training – especially given that there’s apparently no warning sound conditioned in the Norwegian shock collar scenario.

In short, that the dogs stop chasing the sheep after a single shock in the training scenario is not a reliable predictor of whether they will chase sheep two years later in a completely different setting.

Frankly, unless there’s more training than the single shock during a single session as indicated in the magazine, in my book that “sheep proof” diploma wouldn’t be worth the paper it’s printed on.

And now, I realize that some of my readers will be going “wait a minute!! We actually do shock the dogs in multiple locations and do the proofing in novel locations where the animal has no history of being shocked, so that diploma is indeed valid!” or “we actually do the shock training every year and update the diploma every year!!”

That just proves my point. I’m not saying I don’t think it can be done, I’m saying that I suspect that the procedure is being whitewashed in the article, playing down the severity and frequency of the required shocking.

Why not mention the potential side effects?

But let’s give them the benefit of a doubt for a moment.

After all, I’m not a dog trainer – I could be entirely wrong about the first two issues I’ve raised.

Let’s say that the outcomes of training with live sheep is vastly different from running after a plastic lure – let’s say that 99% of dogs actually do become “sheep proof” in novel locations after a single electric shock, even years after their original training.

The only way that you would get 99% compliance would be if fear conditioning occurred to the sheep specifically – and not to any other features of the training environment in which shocks occurred. How do we know that that doesn’t happen?

But even more importantly, would there be any known potential downsides, side effects, to this procedure?

Will the dogs really be happy and outgoing, merrily roaming the mountainside off leash chasing all kinds of other wildlife except sheep, and not develop any irrational fears or phobias?

I am rather sure that some dogs would – and that some wouldn’t.

I’m sure that some dogs take that single shock in stride and will happily ignore sheep forevermore, confidently trotting along beside their guardian into the sunset.

As I’m equally sure that some dogs will be more or less destroyed by that single shock.

We don’t know the proportion of dogs that become shutdown versus are resilient to pain.

And here’s the problem: we don’t know how many fall into the first category, and how many fall into the second. To my knowledge, there’s not any data on those proportions, but I will share one case I am familiar with.

Eva-Lynn told me: “When my dog was young, I allowed myself to be persuaded to use shock training in the presence of sheep so that he would be able to run loose on the mountain. The authorized trainer shocked him when he was happily and excitedly running out into the field with the sheep. He became terrified and screamed, followed by whining and trembling for 3 days. He did not develop a fear of sheep, but I drove back to where we had taken this so-called ‘sheep-proof training”, and he was terrified of that particular field in which the training had taken place. Afterwards, it turned out that he likes to play with sheep including their lambs, and has never been a threat to any sheep! Now he is dead, and I have spent 15 years of my life forgiving myself for what I exposed him to in all my ignorance, pressure from others, and stupidity. I’m still ashamed!”

In other words, whether the dogs learn that it’s the chasing of sheep that is connected to the pain, and not some other factor such as the field where training takes place, or the clothes the trainer was wearing on that particular day, or indeed the presence of a specific person, seems entirely arbitrary.

The trainers are assuming that they’re teaching an operant conditioning contingency (if I chase sheep, bad things happen) rather than an association based on classical conditioning (in this particular situation, in this location, with these sheep, with those people present, bad things happen). I would argue that we don’t know whether the conditioning that occurs is predominantly operant – or rather classical; most likely some combination of the two.

Also, we can’t assume that there won’t be any potentially really serious side effects, including generalized fear, aggression, apathy and reduced learning. For instance, the animal might start showing fearful or aggressive behaviour in that location, with those sheep, when the trainer wears those clothes or in the presence of those people.

To me it’s outrageous that the magazine seemingly whitewashes the technique without even mentioning the potential downsides – which may sometimes be extremely serious. The title of the article, “shocking dogs improves animal welfare” is highly inappropriate as it might inspire their readers to order a shock collar over the internet to improvise and try to improve their dog’s welfare all on their own. And remind me, are shock collars even legal in Norway? (rhetorical question, the answer is “no” – their use is regulated to only professionals with specific training, such as the trainer mentioned in the article).

There are at least 20 problems with punishment.
What about alternatives?

Finally, the article dismisses humane ways of training saying “yes, you can teach dogs not to chase sheep with alternative methods but it won’t work for the vast majority of dogs”.

This is simply not true – you can indeed train most dogs to stop chasing wildlife (and not just sheep but any prey species, other dogs, bicycles or joggers) with kind methods that are fun for the dog.

It’s not a “quick fix” the way that shock-collar training is outlined in the article, but to suggest that R+ training is that ineffective is misinformation (assuming that the trainer doesn’t know better) or indeed disinformation (that he actually does knows it can be done with most dogs but wants to control the narrative).

Whether “painless methods to teach dogs not to chase wildlife won’t work for the vast majority of dogs” is misinformation or disinformation, it’s not true

Admittedly, there may not be any scientific papers (yet) showing successful predation substitute training with most dogs, but I know of several R+ trainers who are indeed successfully teaching the majority of their clients’ dogs (including “high-drive” ones) to engage with their trainers rather than chase various species of farm animals, wildlife, other dogs or joggers – I don’t know if they’re collecting data for any scientific study, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they were.  

The absence of scientific evidence is not evidence of absence – this is an evolving field and there’s been a landslide of relevant new publications related to dog behaviour in the last 10 years or so; I expect we’ve not yet reached the peak rate of yearly dog-related publications.

If I would hazard a guess, I’d say that it’s just a matter of time before such a study were published – they’re doing the training, and I would encourage the reader to check out their work. I link to the work of several such trainers here.

To conclude, we know that aversives work to stop behaviour, at least momentarily. In this article they downplay the number of shocks needed, making it sound like using shocks on dogs is a necessarily evil, a small moment of discomfort that opens the door to freedom forevermore.  They’re ignoring the documented risks of using punishment as well as the fact that there are valid pain-free alternatives. As long as reaching for that shock collar is the perceived quick – and only – solution, my guess is that these trainers won’t even bother to learn to use gentle techniques to keep dogs from chasing.

And sadly, now the readers of that magazine won’t either.

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17 Replies to ““Sheep-proofing” dogs in Norway”

  1. I think the number of shocks needs clarification. There is a reference to one dog who responded to a single shock but there is another reference to dogs that need more than one ‘session’. How many shocks may be delivered in a session? The orginal article seems misleading to me.

    1. That’s part of the problem in my mind, in one place they say that 99% of dogs are only zapped once before they learn the lesson – that can be interpreted as just a single zap, or one occasion (with multiple zaps). I think the reference to dogs needing more sessions would be in the remaining 1%…

  2. Thankyou for this! I have been very disappointed in the “Banana study” and read many commentaries on it. For another one to come to light, hot on the heels of it,( it seems) also condoning the use of aversives in training or preventing predatory behaviour is very worrying
    One of the things that first struck me about this was that it took place in Norway with shock collars. I was under the impression that they were banned there, I didn’t realise there were exceptions to this law, which I feel defeats the purpose of the ban. Positive reinforcement and kindness in training does work and so do leashes! Why do people feel they have the right to walk wherever they want and traumatise their dog to enable the owner to pursue their own activities. These activities, it would seem, are often for them to chase, kill or maim other wild living creatures with the help of said dogs. If the dog involved cannot be trained using kind methods or the trainer doesn’t have the skill, then perhaps they have to face up to the fact that they or this dog is not a good fit for this environment or “ pastime”. Just a few thoughts from a positive reinforcement, ethical and kind CDT who loves dogs and all animals.

    1. Hi Valerie, thanks for sharing your thoughts! 🙂 Yes it’s exhausting that such worrisome articles are published in such short succession. If I’ve understood it correctly, shock collars are regulated in Norway: they may only be used by certified trainers for the specific purpose of teaching dogs not to chase a few specific species, sheep and reindeer among them. They’re not allowed to be used by the general public.

  3. Hi Karolina
    Thank you for your review and explanation of both articles on the use of shock collars for training dogs. It is easy to misinterpret the messages if you don’t read critically. Especially if you are looking for evidence that reinforces your perspective. I have seen and helped dogs that have suffered physically and mentally from training with punishment and as in your case study example, once the handler has more information, they regret they ever used punishment to train their dog.

    1. Hi Natalie, glad you liked’em! 🙂 That’s what was particularly striking about the Norwegian article, that the potential downsides weren’t even mentioned: it was portrayed as an uncomplicated welfare-enhancing procedure! Outrageous.

  4. I am very grateful for your insights on these 2 “studies”. Unfortunately I feel the general public will never read them. It is so sad that this debate rages on…..why are some people so adamant to stay stuck in the past with aversive methods? Why are they so afraid to admit positive reinforcement works? It is all very depressing. I applaud you & others who can clearly state why punishment should not & need not be used. I will continue to plod along in my little world helping those dog owners that want to embrace positive training. Keep up the good fight.

    1. Hi Regine – I think you’re right, many people won’t read them… we’ll actually try to get the “banana” paper retracted, much for this reason (that people will read the original studies without the concurrent critique)

  5. Here’s the translation of the article:

    ELECTRIC SHOCK TRAINING OF DOGS IMPROVES ANIMAL WELFARE.

    It is a nice August day in Lunner municipality. It is cloudy with pleasant weather and not too warm, around 15 degrees. The fields are green, and a flock of sheep grazes peacefully in the meadow. Suddenly, a white and liver-colored bird dog comes running full speed towards them. The sheep scatter, and just before the dog reaches the flock, it pulls back and interrupts the attack. What happened?

    Trond Lereng is a certified aversion instructor and is authorized to administer electric shocks to dogs. The aim is to make the dog “sheep proof,” meaning it will associate sheep with discomfort and, as a result, avoid them. And it works. “I’ve been using electric shock training on dogs for about 10 years now,” says Trond Lereng. “I train about 60-70 dogs each summer. Of those, only three dogs have needed a second session. This means that 99% of the dogs only need to be shocked once before they’ve learned the lesson.”

    Trond accepts all dog breeds, but most are hunting dogs, especially bird dogs.

    “Unfortunately,” Trond explains, “there is a large majority of hunting dogs in aversion training. All dogs have a hunting instinct, even the kindest family dogs can chase and kill sheep. If all breeds were trained as frequently as hunting dogs, many animal tragedies could have been avoided. No ‘sheep certificates’ are issued to polar breeds, like the husky, but these breeds can also undergo aversion training. Polar breeds are responsible for one-third of all sheep attacks.”

    Olav Greivstad is a hunting dog and wildlife consultant for the Norwegian Hunters and Anglers Association (NJFF) and is responsible for the training of aversion instructors like Trond.
    “In total, we have about 560 instructors in Norway, and every year around 100 new ones are trained. Strict requirements are placed on the instructors. They must be recommended by a club and have completed both hunting dog and aversion training.”

    Veterinarian Bjørn Erik Strand on the left with his dog SV Kompis, and Trond Lereng on the right. It is important that the shock collar is tight.

    But how does electric shock training of dogs work? Isn’t it extremely unfair to the dogs?

    “Using a remote control, the dog is subjected to a short and constant shock of 12 milliseconds,” explains Greivstad. “The strength is 500 millivolts per second. That might not sound like much, but it’s a shock that the dog feels very well, and it’s unpleasant. However, it’s not harmful in any way. You can try it on yourself. It’s very uncomfortable and painful for many, but it’s a brief sensation, and there are no lasting effects.”

    Is this really necessary? Aren’t there any other ways to make a dog “sheep proof”?

    “For most people, this is the only alternative to prevent animal tragedies. Aversion training is a necessary evil for dogs to be able to run freely and for the protection of livestock. If we stopped using electric shocks, there would be a significant increase in the chasing and killing of livestock.”

    “I am incredibly impressed with Trond; he is a fantastic dog person with great expertise. At exactly the right moment, Kompis received a shock and immediately stopped chasing. Now it will be interesting to see if he is ‘sheep proof’ or if he needs more rounds of aversion training.”

    What is the main reason you have your dogs undergo electric shock training?

    “All my dogs have completed aversion training, and the main reason for that is that I want to be able to roam freely with my dog during the autumn. I hunt both in the woods and in the mountains, and I go on many camping trips. I want to move through nature with peace of mind, knowing my dog will not chase and kill sheep. Aversion training is the best form of animal welfare, first and foremost for the sheep, which avoid being chased, bitten, or, in the worst case, killed. But also for the dog, which can be let loose in grazing areas.”

    Kompis is released through the gate, and between him and the flock of sheep is about 100 meters. “Go ahead, Kompis, here are the sheep, feel free to chase them to your heart’s content!” But Kompis is not interested. For safety, Trond and Bjørn Erik take several more passes, getting close to the sheep. Kompis shows no interest; one shock was enough for him. After the aversion training is completed, Bjørn Erik receives a “sheep certificate.” This certificate proves that his dog does not chase sheep. At all bird dog trials, it is mandatory for participants to have such certificates, or they will be disqualified and sent home.

    “This is the only method that works almost 100 percent of the time,” explains Trond. “There are some who claim there are alternative methods, but they will not work for the vast majority of dogs. I would never trust a dog that hasn’t undergone aversion training, and unfortunately, we see many examples of this in bloody newspaper headlines.”

    Bjørn Erik and Kompis are looking forward to a safe and worry-free future where Kompis can run freely while hunting grouse and woodland birds without posing a danger to sheep and lambs.

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